Showing posts with label Mexican GP. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Mexican GP. Show all posts

October 30, 2016

Bring gravel traps back to F1.

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Let's keep it simple.   Formula 1, and as a consequence, racing in general moved to turn gravel traps into parking lots because too many racers ended up beached after screwing up.

Keeping more cars in play is good for the show and good for business, the feeling went,  but unintended consequences of consequence free racing were on full display at the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez in Mexico City on Sunday.

There will be controversy about what happened at the beginning and the end of an otherwise rather dull Mexican GP,  hopefully it will lead to a wider discussion of the direction of a sport.

It's a complicated issue to discuss because you always run up against the safety argument,  obviously nobody wants to see anyone injured but at the same time there is the paradox where racing has been made so safe that young drivers simply do not even consider the possibility  of getting hurt and drive dirty from a younger age.  

Juan Pablo Montoya commented recently on how young karters are routinely making incredibly dangerous moves, blocking very aggressively.    You don't want to discourage drivers from attacking, said the Colombian, but at the same time not setting a higher standard will result in a "bunch of lunatics" when these kids get to F3 and above.

After Japan, Verstappen, asked about his aggressive style said: "this is the new style of driving" and older drivers should get used to it.

One way to curb some of this behavior might be the return of some nice fluffy gravel traps.   Let's examine the key incidents of today's race beginning with the start.



Hamilton missed the braking point and went through the grass, gaining perhaps 10 car length on his pursuers.
Granted his advantage was nullified by the safety car on lap one, but there is no scenario where you could argue he would not have gained track position on the rest of the field by cutting through the grass.



To the key incident at the end of the race, with Vettel catching Verstappen while in turn being pursued by Ricciardo.





Verstappen, under pressure makes a mistake, locks up and goes through the large runoff cutting two corners, gaining a few car lengths on Vettel who did not make an error.

The grown up thing to do is: admit you blew it and give up the position,  that's the Gentleman's Agreement for having those comfortable runoffs. but I guess that's not "the new way of racing".  
Despite a single message to the Dutchman, Red Bull looks to have viewed the situation as a chance to back the Ferrari into a faster Ricciardo.

British Fair Play....

There were two other incidents surrounding the off track excursions that should be discussed.

Many called for Rosberg to be penalized for going off track at the very first corner and gaining an advantage.   Is it a similar situation to Verstappen going off?   Not by a long shot.
Certainly he might have been caught up in our hypothetical gravel trap but it's important to note he went off not because of an error on his part but because a dive bombing, understeering Verstappen shoved him off.


Verstappen is only ahead after bumping the Mercedes off.  You can debate Max's move as a racing incident or just "the new way of driving"  but a penalty to Rosberg in this case would have been unfair.

The final incident between Vettel and Ricciardo should also be dismissed.    Setting aside Vettel would never had been caught by the second Red Bull had Verstappen and Red Bull had behaved like men and not children,  the Ferrari driver leaves enough space for one car under braking .    That is indisputable, end of story.

The "Verstappen rule" you say?   The clarification issued by Whiting after Japan said stewards would examine and incident if a driver makes a move under braking that causes another to take evasive action.

This was simply not the case here.








Finally ass this yammering about Vettel cursing Whiting on the radio.  

"I have a message for Charlie:  Fuck off!"

To be honest, I thought it was awesome.   Everyone's constantly complains about F1 being sterile and we get upset at a driver showing emotion?   Everyone praises Hamilton for brooding on top of his airplane in his underwear but gets in a tizzy at the German telling the white haired dude to of stuff it?

Are these the same people who claim to love James Hunt?

Please.

Just bring back gravel traps.

November 1, 2015

You be the steward: Kimi vs Valterri Pt II, The Finnish revenge.

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For the second time in three races  it was a clash of Finns ad Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen and Williams' Valterri Bottas argued over ownership of  a tight right hand turn.

In Sochi last month is was Bottas on the outside with Raikkonen going for a low percentage lunge on the final lap.    Today, in Mexico City, positions were reversed.

Perkele ensued.



Bottas blamed Raikkonen saying the Ferrari driver knew he was on the inside and should have given him room.     After the Sochi clash, Bottas said he did not know Raikkonen was there and Raikkonen should have given him room....

Raikkonen said it's just racing and it did not matter.

Officials called it a racing incident which seems about right.

The two incidents were very similar but, once again the FIA's lack of consistency confuses:  Raikkonen, whose car was damaged and had to retire in Russia was hit with a grid penalty and license points.  Bottas who was able to continue and eventually finished on the podium was not sanctioned.

F1 deserves consistency.

October 31, 2015

Rosberg fastest in Mexico qualifying

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For the fourth time in a row Nico Rosberg had the measure of Lewis Hamilton in qualifying,  besting the champion by about 2/10th. On the second row will be Sebastian Vettel and Danil Kwyat.

Hamilton said afterwards he was using a better race setup. The forecast for tomorrow is calling for a 90% chance of rain. 2/10th is not a difference between a full dry and a full wet setup so it will be interesting to see how thing play out.

For sure the lack of grip is providing lots of entertainment for the capacity crowd in Mexico City. It must be especially satisfying for race promoter Tavo Hellmund after the fall out with COTA investors to have such a huge success in Mexico.

Here's Rosberg's qualifying lap.




PosDriverTeamQ1Q2Q3
1Nico Rosberg Mercedes1:20.4361:20.0531:19.480
2Lewis Hamilton Mercedes1:20.8081:19.8291:19.668
3Sebastian Vettel Ferrari1:20.5031:20.0451:19.850
4Daniil Kvyat Red BullRacing1:20.8261:20.4901:20.398
5Daniel Ricciardo Red BullRacing1:21.1661:20.7831:20.399
6Valtteri Bottas Williams1:20.8171:20.4581:20.448
7Felipe Massa Williams1:21.3791:20.6421:20.567
8Max Verstappen Toro Rosso1:20.9951:20.8941:20.710
9Sergio Perez Force India1:20.9661:20.6691:20.716
10Nico Huldenberg Force India1:21.3151:20.9351:20.788
11Carlos Sainz Jr. Toro Rosso1:20.9601:20.942 
12Romain Grosjean Lotus F1 Team1:21.5771:21.038 
13Pastor Maldonado Lotus F1 Team1:21.5201:21.261 
14Marcus Ericsson Sauber1:21.2991:21.544 
15Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari1:21.4221:22.494 
16Fernando Alonso McLaren1:21.779  
17Felipe Nasr Sauber1:21.788  
18Alexander Rossi Manor1:24.136  
19Will Stevens Manor1:24.386 


October 30, 2015

Rosberg on fire in Mexico!

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Not that kind of on fire,  he literally was on fire.

The thin air at altitude in Mexico City is presenting problems teams have not seen since, well, since 1992.   They have to run high downforce setups to compensate for the lower air density but there is little they can do about less air getting squeezed into the brake ducts.

The results are very high brake temperatures and very high top speeds, 360 km/h - 225 mph.



Add very slippery conditions due to rain and brand new asphalt and this race promises to be one not to miss.

October 29, 2015

Let's look back at the Mexican Grand Prix

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Formula One is back in Mexico for the first time since 1992 on the newly revamped Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez.

The terrifying "Peraltada" corner,  scene of one of Nigel Mansell masterpieces in 1990 may be gone,  replaced by a series of turns though an actual baseball stadium but the track looks to be similar to COTA with some very long straights and the sequence of fast esses.  Add an uncertain weather forecast and we might be in for another great race.

Senna crashing at the Peraltada in 1991


The track, in use since the early sixties was known for its terrible, bumpy surface.  Presumably modern road building techniques and having the world's richest man (give or take)  behind the project have taken care of that, at least for this year.


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