Showing posts with label 997 TT. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 997 TT. Show all posts
January 21, 2010
For the Turbo Fans...
Spectacular roads found for this official 997 Turbo clip, anyone know where they are? Nice to see Porsche has finally come to its senses regarding the shifter paddles on the DSG.
June 29, 2009
Painful Nürburgring Crash du Jour: 997 Twin Turbo
We bring it to you as a public service of course... Fact is, your survival (financial but not only) at the Nürburgring is dependent on a long list of cautionary tales and learned anecdotes. You are all track junkies, you know your local tracks, you probably walked them, made a mental notes about the pavement. Most tracks have eight to fifteen corners, the 'Ring as over seventy in twenty six complex sections. Creating a vivid mental picture library is crucial.
Let's not focus too much on this particular driver who, after all, wasfoolish generous enough to post his mistake for others to learn from. For illustration purposes, let's just say that he may belong to a certain "danger group" of those who have some experience and a very fast car. They might turn up at the track with fancy race suits and nicknames which might remind one either of Formula 1 or of Top Gun parodies, depending on one's generosity.
It's late June and Manthey organized the track day.
The track is closed to the public so participants get to run the complete long straight without having to stop for the toll gate. Heaven.
Let's see where it all goes to hell after the jump (almost literally as it turns out). We will also debut a new exclusive feature we like to call: "What would Dale do?"
The video is kind of long, you might choose to watch just the last 45 seconds or so but it's a useful exercise to watch the whole thing and see if you catch any mistakes that explain the end result.
Pace is brisk however, just to put it in prospective, this presumably modified 997 Turbo is running at a pace achievable by a good driver in a stock 997 GT3 on Michelin Ps2 tires with traction control on. With the twin turbos doing their thing, his speed is huge in the straight sections, some of the turns are a bit of an issue. Most noticeable is the driver's tendency not to use the whole track as he exits the turns. You could probably write a whole post about what happens between 0:44 and 0:54 in the video. If any of you are instructors, this is almost a text book example for your students.
As he approaches the left turn after the old pit lane (the start of the lap in GT4...what IS that turn called anyway?) he brakes late, his tires are close to the limit, he misses the apex and compounds problems by getting on the gas hard with his wheel still cranked, he doesn't aim for the exit curbing and the resulting oversteer moment inevitable. Next turn, Hatzenbach, same thing does not use all the track.... and so on, you get the picture. As the laps unfolds we finally come to Klostertal (aka the 180 before the Karousel). The approach to this turn has a crest and is blind...
The driver is on the gas all the way past the crest, with his front end unloaded he has little hope to get it slowed enough with predictable results.
So remember kids as you approach Klostertal, you make sure you either brake or lift BEFORE the crest. Now, it same situation as this driver, "What Would Dale DO?"
Dale says:
He should have just thrown it in with a big lift-off, caught the slide, extended it to a drift, waved to the crowd, put the air-con to max and driven away....
Mental pictures, it's all about mental pictures!
Let's not focus too much on this particular driver who, after all, was
It's late June and Manthey organized the track day.
The track is closed to the public so participants get to run the complete long straight without having to stop for the toll gate. Heaven.
Let's see where it all goes to hell after the jump (almost literally as it turns out). We will also debut a new exclusive feature we like to call: "What would Dale do?"
The video is kind of long, you might choose to watch just the last 45 seconds or so but it's a useful exercise to watch the whole thing and see if you catch any mistakes that explain the end result.
Pace is brisk however, just to put it in prospective, this presumably modified 997 Turbo is running at a pace achievable by a good driver in a stock 997 GT3 on Michelin Ps2 tires with traction control on. With the twin turbos doing their thing, his speed is huge in the straight sections, some of the turns are a bit of an issue. Most noticeable is the driver's tendency not to use the whole track as he exits the turns. You could probably write a whole post about what happens between 0:44 and 0:54 in the video. If any of you are instructors, this is almost a text book example for your students.
As he approaches the left turn after the old pit lane (the start of the lap in GT4...what IS that turn called anyway?) he brakes late, his tires are close to the limit, he misses the apex and compounds problems by getting on the gas hard with his wheel still cranked, he doesn't aim for the exit curbing and the resulting oversteer moment inevitable. Next turn, Hatzenbach, same thing does not use all the track.... and so on, you get the picture. As the laps unfolds we finally come to Klostertal (aka the 180 before the Karousel). The approach to this turn has a crest and is blind...
The driver is on the gas all the way past the crest, with his front end unloaded he has little hope to get it slowed enough with predictable results.
So remember kids as you approach Klostertal, you make sure you either brake or lift BEFORE the crest. Now, it same situation as this driver, "What Would Dale DO?"
Dale says:
He should have just thrown it in with a big lift-off, caught the slide, extended it to a drift, waved to the crowd, put the air-con to max and driven away....
Mental pictures, it's all about mental pictures!
March 1, 2008
CAR sneaks a GT-R
Since we are on such a GT-R roll, here is CAR's video of their Nissan vs Porsche 997 TT shootout.I'm not sure how their claim of having the first GT-R in the UK squares with the Autocar video released earlier in the month (I guess they had the first white one?) but I will give them marks for using telemetry, real time wireless data recorders none the less, nice! Can we see the full data?
Watching the video, I hope they edited in slides for dramatic effect because there is no way driving any car that sideways yields the best possible times.
This might also remind you of the kind of talent Tiff Needell has as a TV presenter and driver...
In this month's issue, CAR has the full article with the BMW e92 M3 and the Audi R8 compared as well. Quite interesting, for the M3, not one complaint about brakes!
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