tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post249501514690619718..comments2023-10-26T05:40:57.781-04:00Comments on Axis Of Oversteer: 2013 Hungarian GP Executive Summary.AChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04209280332953683555noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-79754766047606191732013-08-02T16:30:11.197-04:002013-08-02T16:30:11.197-04:00I do agree that are being to hard on RG and the sa...I do agree that are being to hard on RG and the same rules applied to Roman does not applied to the rest. <br />Still I'm thinking Roman's pass to Massa was great but if instead of curb it was a wall would he be able to pull it?Ignacio Sellannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-42266002755394396722013-08-01T20:21:25.584-04:002013-08-01T20:21:25.584-04:00One of your better Executive Summaries. I enjoyed ...One of your better Executive Summaries. I enjoyed the race -- it was very different than I expected. I was very surprised Kimi held Vettel at bay. I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of the RG penalty (turning in on Button) -- I do, however, agree that the pass he made on Massa was fine, and shouldn't have been penalized.<br /><br /><br />Overall, the Tyre issues seem to be put at bay for now. We didn't see any EXCESSIVE tyre wear problems this race -- I was surprised Merc held out so long, especially in the heat. <br /><br /><br />One final note, I'm really digging the huge (1.5s) lap time delta between the Prime and Option tyres. It really makes strategy interesting (Marc).Clay@TrackDecals.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-12829938794692835442013-08-01T10:24:20.359-04:002013-08-01T10:24:20.359-04:00Hi Writer
You have included very well article on h...Hi Writer<br />You have included very well article on here on here about Hungarian GP Executive Summary. I really like this type’s content. I also like to inform about Business. Lastly, select a certified and certified provider for all your <a href="http://beeznees.com/" rel="nofollow">Beeznees</a> needs.Businessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-12363780055050205362013-07-30T17:23:27.380-04:002013-07-30T17:23:27.380-04:00This is all speculation. The reality is they just...This is all speculation. The reality is they just don't like the French ! In addition why do we keep racing in Hungary. Can't we at least look at revising some corners this decade?Joon Kimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-47566547694790043542013-07-30T17:00:48.052-04:002013-07-30T17:00:48.052-04:00Lewis? He was a victim of such fame for quite a wh...Lewis? He was a victim of such fame for quite a while, with McNish burning him in Monaco (last, or 2 years ago). Pastor? he was a crasher up until this season (almost killed a marshal at monaco in GP2, and last year drove himself deliberately into others at least 4 times). Vettel? Got away free with lots of bad mistakes (like driving into Webber in Malaysia for one) and none of them own up to them. Point is, Grosjean has made _involuntary_ mistakes and was crucified, and because he's owned up to them (the ones he was at fault) he's now in a position that almost everyone blames and sees fit to penalize him for anything, even other drivers who try to bully him in and off track (Bullier seems to agree http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109104). He needs to speak up and defend him self firstly. Secondly, it's the first time this season (so once so far) and it is a good time to cut him some slack and to stop putting additional pressure on the driver. He is not _that_ bad of a driver, quite the opposite. Granted, he is no Kimi when it comes to avoiding incidents and scoring points consistently. But then again, who else is? Even Rosberg, one of the cleanest and fairest drivers in the field got into trouble, had a disastrous weekend, and came away with no penalties. He has evolved and shown restraint for quite a while now. When will people drop the easy blame and the crasher label like they did with Marquez this year, Lewis, Carl Edwards, etc? Half a season with no incidents wasn't enough? When is it? 1 whole season, 2, never?Sérgio Oliveiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-79200691919578984582013-07-30T14:37:48.284-04:002013-07-30T14:37:48.284-04:00No, he made unnecessary contact with one, and exce...No, he made unnecessary contact with one, and exceeded track limits on the other. I'm all for good racing, but making consistent spatial awareness related mistakes needs to stop. He needs to stop running into other people. For more than a couple seasons at least.Full Name Herenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-60683131501449749112013-07-30T14:36:38.186-04:002013-07-30T14:36:38.186-04:00Making contact to pass is an idiotic mistake, for ...Making contact to pass is an idiotic mistake, for any driver but especially him. He along with Maldonado, and Massa for a spell, should not being doing that. Once a season is forgivable, as many times as he's done it is not. He still does not understand the concept of spatial awareness. He needs to learn that lesson. You don't see guys like Kimi, Lewis, and Seb bashing into people more than once every couple seasons do you? Grosjean has a completely deserved reputation of someone that doesn't understand the concept of keeling his car off other people, passing or not.Full Name Herenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-22304210440069975612013-07-30T14:34:21.812-04:002013-07-30T14:34:21.812-04:00I don't think that they should allow drivers t...I don't think that they should allow drivers to go outside the boundaries of the track to "finally" make a pass. If they don't come down with a punishment on any driver that exceeds the track limits to make a pass then it'll escalate and the next driver that does so will use the excuse that the last driver got away with it so why can't he. I'm all for good hard racing, but if they give an inch they'll start taking a mile. This has been true of F1 since it started. You give them an opening and they'll bust it wide open.Full Name Herenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-91108883595357291562013-07-30T13:01:30.631-04:002013-07-30T13:01:30.631-04:00this is not spa.... forgive and forget! RG made on...this is not spa.... forgive and forget! RG made one of 2 great passes. this is why we watch racing, not to watch them in a single file w/out passing.Glenn Chapitalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-76742923278216120062013-07-30T12:57:52.191-04:002013-07-30T12:57:52.191-04:00because webber is going to porsche next year....because webber is going to porsche next year....Glenn Chapitalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-50193806259029984282013-07-30T08:12:51.754-04:002013-07-30T08:12:51.754-04:00regardless of the actual merits of it, Seb is fall...regardless of the actual merits of it, Seb is fallen into the "bad guy" role. Fault is really RB's more than his own.AxisACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-10680182900273374262013-07-30T07:12:31.585-04:002013-07-30T07:12:31.585-04:00Agreed, Schumi was a very dirty player, I do not s...Agreed, Schumi was a very dirty player, I do not see that with Seb. He is a very likable guy and as you can see after the race, he and Kimi were chatting and laughing it up on the podium. He is a fierce competitor and this fan has been rooting for him since he was loaned to BMW Sauber back in the day then dominated Bourdais at Torro Rosso his rookie season.<br /><br />I personally do not like Webber, I think he brought out the worst in Seb and cries very loud when Seb gets one up on him playing Webbers game. I actually cheered when Seb over took Mark in Malaysia remembering Silverstone and Interlagos where Mark did everything he could to ruin Sebs race and championship. <br /><br />How quickly everyone forgets and the sheeple all boo because it is the cool thing to do.<br /><br />http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93001<br /><br />I think Kimi would be a better teammate, there will be no HS drama with Kimi.Jim Cesironoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-17971209587062313972013-07-30T06:52:58.150-04:002013-07-30T06:52:58.150-04:00Half a season without getting it wrong is not &quo...Half a season without getting it wrong is not "making mistakes consistently". Nor are the contact with Button and the overtake on Massa "idiotic mistakes".Sérgio Oliveiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-31766178386508473932013-07-29T19:03:02.306-04:002013-07-29T19:03:02.306-04:00yeah, I'm not sure I totally agree with that ...yeah, I'm not sure I totally agree with that philosophy, having to watch F1 on that gokart track is bad enough, if you punish putting 4 off for a tenth of a second to finally make a pass...AxisACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-51517536121390882082013-07-29T18:00:47.336-04:002013-07-29T18:00:47.336-04:00The mistake he made was trusting Ron Dennis. Ron D...The mistake he made was trusting Ron Dennis. Ron Dennis didn't adhere to treating drivers equal and that's the issue he most likely had.Full Name Herenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-4500371988629459982013-07-29T18:00:45.558-04:002013-07-29T18:00:45.558-04:00I believe it's because when someone makes mist...I believe it's because when someone makes mistakes consistently and seems to need stronger encouragement to do so, the penalties are increased. Gorsjean seems to not be able to keep from breaking rules that someone of his experience shouldn't be. It's pretty easy to not run into other people every couple of races, but punishments don't seem to be getting in his head. I think he deserved what he got. If he wants to stop getting "the shaft" then he needs to stop making mistakes consistently.Full Name Herenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-7884780972443192552013-07-29T14:33:45.155-04:002013-07-29T14:33:45.155-04:00Well if they want rule enforcement they should inv...Well if they want rule enforcement they should invite lawyers ;) The driver is invited to give the driver perspective and explain some of the moves, and his opinion is usually decisive. He was biased IMO because he, like many, are unable to cut Romain some slack. In other matters of the race other drivers were given the benefit of the doubt. Not Romain, who IMO drove a great race, with the exception of the mistake with Jenson, that he acknowledgedSérgio Oliveiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-52331184811505731192013-07-29T14:14:25.219-04:002013-07-29T14:14:25.219-04:00Vettel is much more likable than Schumi. Are you s...Vettel is much more likable than Schumi. Are you saying that Ferrari should have fired Schumi after winning three straight drivers championships because he was a cheating jerk?Odienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-56597282201722679342013-07-29T13:52:09.830-04:002013-07-29T13:52:09.830-04:00Fair enough but then why wash;t Rosberg penalized ...Fair enough but then why wash;t Rosberg penalized for turning into Massa, why wasn't Hamilton penalized for not giving room to Webber?AxisACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-12916872819840835632013-07-29T13:15:29.423-04:002013-07-29T13:15:29.423-04:00This taken from McNish's Twitter 2 minutes ago...This taken from McNish's Twitter 2 minutes ago...<br /><br />"I know some do not agree or understand the Stewards decision at the weekend. To be clear but without discussing any specific events."<br /><br />"There are 4 Stewards, not just 1. All have an equal voice in any decision & no-one decides on any one matter, it is a joint process."<br /><br />"The Stewards must follow fully the Rule book as it is written, they do not write the rules & cannot change them, only apply them."<br /><br /><br /><br />Sounds like a cop out to me.aclasschrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-58706197039022805982013-07-29T13:04:30.212-04:002013-07-29T13:04:30.212-04:00problem is not a bratty driver it's that nobod...problem is not a bratty driver it's that nobody likes said bratty driver much latelyAxisACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-77774881675858641342013-07-29T12:43:36.802-04:002013-07-29T12:43:36.802-04:00I agree that Grosean got shafted, especially since...I agree that Grosean got shafted, especially since he was passing Massa at the time who was essentially a lapped car out there.<br /><br />You think Red Bull has an image problem because they sell drinks to young people and have a young bratty driver? Then surely the Scuderia's image problem must be far greater, as they sell fast cars and their F1 case is not very fast.<br /><br />As for Alonso going to RB, everyone knows that Alonso won't drive for a team where the other driver is competitive. He won't make the same mistake he made at McLaren again.Odienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-2307133529058860702013-07-29T11:36:40.982-04:002013-07-29T11:36:40.982-04:00Lewis was the class of the field for sure. Everyo...Lewis was the class of the field for sure. Everyone has said it already but I wish Grosjean could have raced with him. It would have been more fun to watch. I though Hulkenberg did a great job despite having a car that looked terrible to drive but Kimi had the best drive of the weekend. Seb is a big cry baby. They are racing for position and also first and second in points and he expects Kimi to move over? Yeah okay !Joon Kimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-71060374813396827922013-07-29T11:27:48.725-04:002013-07-29T11:27:48.725-04:00I was going to make the same point about McNish .....I was going to make the same point about McNish ...AxisACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17940643.post-78359386598648801512013-07-29T11:04:22.252-04:002013-07-29T11:04:22.252-04:00"Grojean is still paying for his 2012 rep&quo..."Grojean is still paying for his 2012 rep" which was already exaggerated at points... Until he comes out and says "this is BS" or someone "is an idiot" and shows some balls, he'll keep being bullied.<br />About the penalties. McNish was in charge wasn't he? He recommends punishments for any aggressive driving. Though he's pretty aggressive himself and has gotten away with crashing his Audi into a GT Ferrari from 2 cars behind at LeMans (remember?).Sérgio Oliveiranoreply@blogger.com